This is a cross posting of a discussion on the scoial network Facebook. Cross posting because I have an aprehension that the post could be deleted by the adminstrator of that discussion and I would be deprived of the discussion, which I wish to have to in open
Topic: Can we talk openly?
I am not willing to believe either side until I know.
Is it OK to talk the subject in open here? If yes, I would like to table some questions for the members to discuss / answer without bias to either side..
Please feel free to express any of your questions.
With Love,
Anjana..
If Mr. Shankar has conclusive evidence that Tulsi can cure H1Ni1, with his vast contacts why did he not connect with WHO / MOH – GOI and other bodies that are the legal and mandated bodies to deal with this? In this case I would have been proud we produced a son like Mr. Shankar and he could even qualify for the Nobel Prize.
If not, why does he keep on insisting that Ayurveda and SK are the ’single window solution’ to all human and global problems – thereby misleading the unsuspecting millions who might skip medical treatment and suffer? In this case will he not be guilty of murder?
With greater love,
Ravinder
PS: Please take a minute to check this link and the comments on the subject and leave your valuable comments there.
So sorry to tell you, but I cant answer your question. The only thing I know is that Guruji always says that you should take your medications according the prescribtions of your doctor. I never heard him saying, to follow something differently as what the doctor said.
Today I received an email, see below:
Dear All,
Now you can get your Spiritual Quest quenched from where ever you are by
sending the queries to askguruji@srisripublications.com
These questions will be read out in the satsangs wherever Guruji is. You can
find the transcription of answers on http://wisdomfromsrisri.blogspot.com
–
Warm Regards
Ramanujam M
Film and Video Department
Sri Sri Publications Trust,
21st km, Kanakapura Road,
Udayapura,
Bangalore 560082.
Tel:- +91 9379768316
I sincerely think that you should post your question to them. Cause I think only Guruji can give you the right answer.
With Love,
Anjana
Many thanks for your answer and I indeed appreciate the same.
Many thanks also for the admission that you can not answer this question; and that only Mr. Shankar can do so. I agree; he is the only person responsible for his actions and his God watching him from top.
Many thanks also for pointing me to the wisdom blogpost …
I have spent hours on that blog. You will be shocked to know the results. Every time I post a question / comment – the following message appears. “Your comment will be published after the approval”. After a while the following happens:
If the comment is something that questions Mr. Shankar’s intentions or abilities – the post never appers. But I see lots of flowery comments getting approved. I shared this with an AOL friend and was challenged me with “why don’t you post something flowery and see if that appears if you want to prove your theory.
Surprising but true – I did the same and bingoooo.. the flowery post appeared. You can see the case if you dig into that post. What I found amusing is that the moderator had no shame to post a comment from someone whose other comments didn’t make it to the blog! But more than amusing I also found a tinge of fanaticism which eclipsed the moderator from at least taking care that the game is not so easily found out!
I rest this case here!
Can I move to more questions?
PS: Did you read through the comments on my blogpost by people who are not paid by me to write anything. Its un moderated and free for all, please feel free to write what you feel is the TRUTH
My knowledge is only very limited. Which got to do, that i am only a volenteer. also i dont have much knowledge about ITstuff.
I am sure… that if you ask any teacher, he/she will be able to answer your question to everyones satisfaction.
Plz do feel free to send me your questions, preferable to my email: a.bhagole@gmail.com so i can take it to my teachers, for the proper explaination.
Again, in the years that i know Guruji, I personally never heard him saying, to stop medical treatments, but he always says to follow the advice of the doctor.
with love, JGD
anjana
Thanks for you frank admission that you have only limited knowledge of the subject and are depending on your teachers for the same.
In fact, the person I referred above is a teacher and the answer I got was no better than yours. And somehow, I find the teachers a little fanatic and less open to dialogue. Their main aim seems to be to sell seats in the programs somehow.
In response to your suggestion of sending the question to you in private, I would like to avoid that since my mission is to have an Open discussion.
I like the last line of your reply where you say that Mr. Shankar says to follow the advice of the dotor. In fact that is the advice I would also give to everyone and also to Mr. Shankar.
Kind regards & love,
Ravinder
Can you tell me what it is that you are really looking for? What is your aim? What is your goal? What is it that you really wish to know?
somehow i dont believe, that your irritation or anger is only based on someones statement, or misunderstanding of knowledge / issues/ circumtances.
Found it very funny that you called our teachers fanatic. 
I dont know you, neither do i know what you are doing. But i do believe that there must be one thing where you are very passionate about. And when you think, talk, or act about that what is your passion, a lot of Enthousiasme is coming along. In my limited understanding, I do think that you misinterpretend their Enthousiasme for Fanatisme.
See the Art of Living is something to experience. If you never had an apple, i can give my best shot to explain you what an apple is, how it taste, how it looks etc. But… only when you see the apple, and took a bite of it, you will get a clear view of the apple. Like wise..our courses are based on experience. You can ask 100 ppl to talk about the course..and you might get 100 different answers, cause everyone is having their own experiences.
As, i mentioned before, I only have limited knowledge, but I dont think its right to jump into conclusions about stuff you dont know exactly or dont have an experience with. I have no clue wether you have done the course or not. But my personal experience is, that my health is drastically improved after Sudarshan Kriya. I quite eating medications, as the SK healed me from the inside. Once you experienced the secrets of your breath… Not only experiences, but also understood… I dont think you want something differently.
The main reason that i asked you to post the questions to my email, was so that it would be easier to forward it to the my teachers, and that they also would be able to reply to you directly. But this depends what your aim is. Is your aim, to get a clear answer on your queiries, or is your aim something else.
Rishi Vidyadhaar shared some time ago something very beautiful, with me, He said, there is nothing private within Art Of Living.
We are very happy with your comments and questions. Only a seeker will ask.
With Love,
Anjana
You are now beginning to talk like a typical AOL sales person. Please spare me the cliché.
I have eaten enough apples to and know what they taste like. And what I do or dont do is not relevant here.
If you agree that we can move ahead of the above question, since AOL and its CEO has no answer to this, can we move ahead with more questions to Mr. Shankar or will that be too embarrassing in public?
Else I am done and hand the mic to you for ever
Regards
Ravinder
I have no intention nor benefit to tell you to do the course or not. Thats is totally up to you. but i do tell you frankly that before jumping into conclusions you should have a honest view of what it is.
Dear, we dont feel embarrassed at all. Again,… feel free to post better to email your questions. What i know that within Art of Living, nothing is private. We are an open and honest organisation.
and if you are not satisfied with the answers, you can also send an email to the other email id, i had given you.
Its not that there is no willingness from ourside.
With Love,
Anjana
- I have taken an honest view in relation with the course.
- If AOL is not embarrassed by what people say in public, why is there no criticism admitted on the so called wisdom blog. Scroll up.
- I will talk here – till I can and then I will shut up and leave you all in your fantasy land
Love
Ravinder
I think you misunderstood the blog.
see… you send an EMAIL to: askguruji@srisripublications.com
During satsangs Guruji is answering questions, this question might be picked up, and will be answered. The answer will appear on wisdom blog, as what Sri Sri said today. I dont think the wisdom blog is there to post questions on or to react etc. I see it as a database with q and a. I would feel annoyed if there would be too many comments of ppl. And knowing Guruji, he is reading all the questions. And i am sure if your question comes out of sincerity you will get your answer for sure.
Its sad, that you spend soo many hours on something which you didnt read properly.
The way of how you are asking your questions, fanatic, fantasy land, murder etc, these are big words, if you are not willing to accept answers, you are getting, as it not might be corresponding in what you would like to hear. I do think its best to close this discussion. See for a discussion you need open minded people, who might have different view points, but they do respect eachother view points. Doesnt mean that they have to agree with it, but some respect should be there.
I strongly feel, that your intention is not having an answer on your question, or to have an open discussion, but it is something differently. And I am not willing to go into discussions with you, if you are not respecting my view point. Again, this got nothing to do with feeling embarrassed or fear etc. It got to do, that i personally feel, disrespected by your choose of words.
if you are sincere in your question, this blog is open to everyone. Also to you Ravinder. You are most welcome,
With Love,
Anjana in Fantasy Land
May I submit that you are contradicting yourself if you read scroll enough. I quote you wrote
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“Now you can get your Spiritual Quest quenched from where ever you are by
sending the queries to askguruji@srisripublications.com
These questions will be read out in the satsangs wherever Guruji is. You can
find the transcription of answers on http://wisdomfromsrisri.blogspot.com“
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I responded to http://wisdomfromsrisri.blogspot.com.
But now thats history..
BTW, Why are only two of us talking why dont we have more people talking
and BTW – I dont feel disrected by any words you may choose
With Love to you and every one in
Fantasy Land 
I am sorry if there was any confusion regarding the email to send. In my thoughts, it said, sending the queries to AskGuruji@srisripublications.com. Seeing the @ for me it means just sending an email.. and seeing the response on the site. Thats it…
Anyway… you know much better than I, how to send your queries.
wishing you a wonderful day, or evening.
The whole fantasy land is saying with love to you too. )
Mere words cannot give complete answer.
If you think guruji is wrong in some aspects, then don’t follow him. Or if there is nothing special art of living, then don’t follw it either.
Be a nice human and love everybody unconditionally. This is enough. Why are you wasting your energy and time in judging guruji or art of living? Utilise this energy and time to care people around you.
Don’t you think that you are filled with anxiety while judging guruji or art of living? So, just relax!
Yes, I think Mr. Shankar, whether right or wrong, does not qualify to be my Guru. I have a guru, about whom I can talk if required.
Yes, I am of the view that there is nothing special about the AOL programs except that they are harmless but that doesn’t make them useful or desirable.
About being a nice human being – does it make one a nice human being if he unconditionally accepts AOL and its CEO as his mission in life?
So far so sweet but your question is “Why am I wasting my energy and time in judging guruji or art of living” First thing – I am not wasting it .. I am using it. Now why am I doing it … Two simple reasons
- The first one is in the 3rd post above; where by I think that this gentleman, if not stopped, could be a potential threat to unsuspecting people who will take this (wrong) advice as final and ignore medical advise. I know you will jump at refuting this – but I also know cases where it has happened and I know them more closely that you would assume.
- The second is that I have a mission of helping so many of my personal friends who have been blinded by the flowery speeches (which essentially mean nothing) in the Bangalore factory – and have left their families, children causing them harm – imho your Guruji stand guilty there too.
Now about me – since you asked. Rahul I am very relaxed – trust me! I have a very simple method of staying happy and harmless and where ever possible helping someone. If you care you can browse my blog and you will know. Please don’t see this as my way of ’selling’ my blog, but you are free to post your comments / opinions there – its not moderated – unlike all of AOL sites.
In prayers that you will also Relax,
Ravinder
What I would like to mention is that the tone of your posts is very negative. Also I can sense the anger. I think your last post explains why “…know cases where it has happened and I know them more closely than you would assume” and “…blinded by flowery speeches…and have left their families….”. I am sorry that you have anger about this. Please, please do not be angry. Continue posting your beliefs, but aim for dispassion in your speech. Your anger cuts me deep! 
Thanks and I find you talking a bit mor reasonably than others here.
Your having chosen the AOL path is your decision and I would repect it just as that. To be honest I have nothing against SK or any of the Yoga practices.
To me there are Five different catagories of any process that’s used to address anything.
1. Harmful
2. Harmless
3. Useful
4. Useless
5. Essential
I have no doubt that the AOL practices are in Cat 2 above. The medical states, if seen objectively, show nothing beyond this.
The trouble is that Mr. Shankar wants the world to believe that his practices are in no. 5 cat. I have no problem with him in that either. Anyone is free to “speak” what he likes to and its for the ‘Listener” to decide what to do with that.
But what he doesn’t know (or does and ignores) is that he uses Religion / Spirituality as the means of communicating this. And 90% of unsuspecting people, who fear religion more than loving it, follow his advise blindly. And we have seen some examples right here.
About your moods and your particular problem, I am sure you are the best judge of how to address it. All I can suggest is that there is a world of wisdom available in the Indian Hindu philosophies taught by genuine learned people who do not seek blind allegiance almost under an oath of loyalty. Do read some books on Buddhism and you will find it all there. Or read Swami Vivekananda and you will find the difference between the modern commercial Gods and wise learned people.
I am quite aware there will be an immediate urge for some follower here to say that “But that’s what SSRK is also teaching” My answer is simple. Spare me the comparison – Vivekananda didn’t copyright anything – nor did he ever call himself Swami. Read any of his letters – they are signed Narendra.
I am extremely sorry if my language conveys anger. That’s not my intent and I am not angry. I am just blunt unless that’s a crime. I use blunt words – not because I mean offence but because I mean business.
I don’t believe in being nice at the cost of being blind to bare facts.
